Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/21/2002 01:37 PM Senate L&C

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                 HB 262-BUILDING SAFETY ACCOUNT                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS announced HB 262 to be up for consideration.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. AMY  ERICKSON, Staff to  Representative Murkowski,  sponsor of                                                              
HB  262,  said that  it  was  introduced  at  the request  of  the                                                              
Department of Labor's Mechanical Inspections Program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  a  fees  for  service   measure  establishing  a                                                                   
     building  safety  account  to allow  the  department  to                                                                   
     collect  fees  to  support  its  mechanical  inspections                                                                   
     program.  The measure  provides a  mechanism and  proper                                                                   
     funding to hire  three new positions to catch  up on the                                                                   
     sizeable  backlog of  boiler  and elevator  inspections.                                                                   
     Currently, the  mechanical inspection section  generates                                                                   
     just over  $1 million in  general funds and  is allotted                                                                   
     about $695,000.  This has been  a nagging public  safety                                                                   
     concern for many years and has  reached a level of about                                                                   
     6,000 boilers  and about 300 elevators  need inspection.                                                                   
     The  Americans  With  Disabilities Act  has  caused  the                                                                   
     number of elevators  to double in the state  in the last                                                                   
     eight years.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     In the mid 1990s there were  five electrical inspectors,                                                                   
     two elevator inspectors and  five boiler inspectors. Now                                                                   
     there are  just two electrical inspectors,  one elevator                                                                   
     inspector  and three  boiler inspectors  to inspect  the                                                                   
     enormous  backlog  of boilers  in  addition  to the  ADA                                                                   
     elevators.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Passage  of 262  will  give the  Mechanical  Inspections                                                                   
     Program the  ability to restore the three  new positions                                                                   
     to eliminate the sizeable backlog in about two years.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She said there was a new fiscal note.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN asked what fees would be charged for boilers.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON replied that she thought  it would be $40 per boiler.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  AUSTERMAN  asked  if  the  fees would  be  the  same  for                                                              
elevators.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.   RAMOND   HENDERSON,   Director,   Administrative   Services,                                                              
Department of  Labor and Workforce  Development, said there  is no                                                              
increase or  decrease in the amount  of fee level. The  fee that's                                                              
charged depends  on the kind of  inspection and varies from  $40 -                                                              
$105.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  AUSTERMAN  asked if  they  already  have the  ability  to                                                              
collect fees, what is the objective of this bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON  replied that they  have the ability to  collect the                                                              
fees, but they don't have the authority  to spend all the money to                                                              
address  the backlog  by hiring  the  three additional  positions,                                                              
which will generate enough proceeds to pay for themselves.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN asked him to explain the fiscal note.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.HENDERSON replied that $234.6  K is for the three new positions                                                              
for the first  10 months and 10  months in 2003, as it  would take                                                              
them a couple of months to get the  positions on board and project                                                              
that they will generate revenues of $242.8 K.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  STEVENS  asked  if  they  had  projected  finishing  the                                                              
backlog in 2007.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON  said yes and that's  when they would  eliminate one                                                              
of the positions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  STEVENS asked  if they  figured the  program would  stay                                                              
consistent  from  that point  on  for  the  receipts to  fund  the                                                              
program from after that.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON said that was correct.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  commended him  for actually  showing in  the fiscal                                                              
note that  they would  actually finish  something and eliminate  a                                                              
position.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN  asked how  many inspectors  are in the  program                                                              
right now that are charging the fees.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON  answered a total of  four. They estimate  that they                                                              
are going to be able to perform 1,250 inspections per inspector.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS asked if there were  any other sources of revenue                                                              
in the program except for the work performed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON replied  yes, that there is a fee  for a certificate                                                              
for electricians and plumbers.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS  said the point  Senator Austerman was  trying to                                                              
make  was that  they  were  increasing  their workforce  by  three                                                              
quarters,  but  they would  only  increase  their revenue  by  one                                                              
quarter.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN said he thought  this question could be answered                                                              
in the  Finance Committee  and he wouldn't  object to  passing the                                                              
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. DENNIS BOWDEN,  Assistant Chief of Labor  Standards, explained                                                              
that one of the constant revenues  they have is sales of licenses,                                                              
which runs about  $400,000 per year. That amount  would not change                                                              
with the increase of personnel.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN moved to pass HB 262  from committee with individual                                                              
recommendations with  the accompanying fiscal note.  There were no                                                              
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               

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